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government because fewer people are involved in seeing taxes go up from the 35% rate right now to the 39.6% rate, which existed before the bush tax cuts were implemented in 2001 and 2003 during the clinton administrati administration. so it will be less revenue. they have to find more revenue elsewhere, but it's something the president felt he needed to do to get a deal to show he's ready to negotiate. so he moved from that 250 to 450, so that's a significant concession from the democrats' perspective. >> jessica, what do we expect to hear from the president in the statement he's going to make momentarily? >> reporter: i believe, he's going to urge action, suzanne, and call on both parties to pass this. as you know and as dana bash reported from capitol hill, there are democrats who have expressed concern about the agreement or the emerging deal. it's not done yet. and there is obviously going to be republican resistance, but you know, he will call on both sides to do something. i point out that while 450,000 for a household is a concession by democrats, the democrats are getting some
government because fewer people are involved in seeing taxes go up from the 35% rate right now to the 39.6% rate, which existed before the bush tax cuts were implemented in 2001 and 2003 during the clinton administrati administration. so it will be less revenue. they have to find more revenue elsewhere, but it's something the president felt he needed to do to get a deal to show he's ready to negotiate. so he moved from that 250 to 450, so that's a significant concession from the democrats'...
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so you're also potentially affected by spending cuts in the government. could you give us a better idea of what that might mean to your business? >> absolutely. that probably is worse than the tax hike. the washington area is probably the strongest area in the country in terms of people that are going to be affected by this. i do business with a lot of contract contractors that work with the federal government. of course, if they are not in business and their demand for my products go down, maybe i'm out of business. i don't know. >> i guess you were affected by the recession in some pretty dramatic ways and there's a potential for a whole new wave. can you talk about how the recession also affected you? >> absolutely. the last three or four years have been tough. we have had to cut back expenses and personnel. we have done what we can in terms of increasing our revenues more efficiently. we are being smarter about how we spend our money and the customers we're dealing with. the whole aspect of what may happen in terms of losing our customer base is a sca
so you're also potentially affected by spending cuts in the government. could you give us a better idea of what that might mean to your business? >> absolutely. that probably is worse than the tax hike. the washington area is probably the strongest area in the country in terms of people that are going to be affected by this. i do business with a lot of contract contractors that work with the federal government. of course, if they are not in business and their demand for my products go...
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they are just sticking to one principle, limited government. they look at something with no principles like occupy wall street to elevate them as heroes. principles that are mold. >> andrea: republicans might have reason to fret, too. the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side
they are just sticking to one principle, limited government. they look at something with no principles like occupy wall street to elevate them as heroes. principles that are mold. >> andrea: republicans might have reason to fret, too. the leader, speaker john boehner and the approval rating is lower than speaker pelosi. who is a vampire. 51% boehner unfavorable. juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd...
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and russia in november governing u.s. adoptions to russia, putting out responsibilities for both sides. so what they're saying is, let's please stick to that agreement. they're in close touch with those families, and they're hoping that at least these 50 or some odd cases should be resolved. they're asking parents that are in the pipeline, stay in touch with your adoption agency and also look at adoption.state.gov. we'll put that on our website. that's where parents can get the very latest information about this crisis. >> all right. elise, thank you very much. appreciate it. >>> americans whose adoptions are in imbow are very worried. they're even desperate for information. i want to talk to a family via skype. this is from dover, new jersey. this is jenny and josh johnston. they are in the process of adopting a child from russia. thank you very much for joining us here. i can only imagine -- i can't really imagine what you are going through here. the two of you already have three children, one of them adopted from ethio
and russia in november governing u.s. adoptions to russia, putting out responsibilities for both sides. so what they're saying is, let's please stick to that agreement. they're in close touch with those families, and they're hoping that at least these 50 or some odd cases should be resolved. they're asking parents that are in the pipeline, stay in touch with your adoption agency and also look at adoption.state.gov. we'll put that on our website. that's where parents can get the very latest...
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government has announced plans to build a new frederick douglas memorial bridge. the projected price tag is $660 million. construction would start in 2015. d.c. mayor vincent gray says in the long run, a new bridge would save taxpayers money over the cost of making repeated repairs to the existing bridge which is 63 years old. the uglas memorial bridge handles about 70,000 commuters every day as they cross the anacostia river. >>> you can't really complain about the weather today. olga has the forecast. she's out on our weather terrace and she tells us that we can expect some nice weather, maybe a little bit of showers this afternoon. right, olga? >> reporter: that's right. i'm still tracking a storm system passing mainly south of us. so far we've been dry. the potential is later on this afternoon until about the 3:00 or 4:00 hour, we could see a sprinkle with the cloud cover, though, our temperatures have been consistent. right now we're at 44 degrees. that's where we've been for about two hours. we're pretty much going to sit right where we are interest the afte
government has announced plans to build a new frederick douglas memorial bridge. the projected price tag is $660 million. construction would start in 2015. d.c. mayor vincent gray says in the long run, a new bridge would save taxpayers money over the cost of making repeated repairs to the existing bridge which is 63 years old. the uglas memorial bridge handles about 70,000 commuters every day as they cross the anacostia river. >>> you can't really complain about the weather today. olga...
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and, yes, your government is doing it to you. >>> also, what a year. government sex scandals. brutal political fights and superstorms like we he have never seen before. lots of explosive headlines in 2012. what is the biggest story of the year. tell us on gretawire and post your pick and see if your pick made our list. that's coming up. >>> plus, get ready. another storm about to pummel big chunks of the nation. does that possibly mean you? are you in the path? the latest on the storm are's path is coming up. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south paci
and, yes, your government is doing it to you. >>> also, what a year. government sex scandals. brutal political fights and superstorms like we he have never seen before. lots of explosive headlines in 2012. what is the biggest story of the year. tell us on gretawire and post your pick and see if your pick made our list. that's coming up. >>> plus, get ready. another storm about to pummel big chunks of the nation. does that possibly mean you? are you in the path? the latest on...
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shifting the debt burden from the federal government and states and federal government is a better position to carry debt. states have these constitutional balance budget amendments and bail out the states, isn't it? >> this is exactly the problem we have is that the government finds it easy to borrow and runaway deficit. let me explain the big thing. a project in the uk where we have good data, 100 million pounds, uk project, 30% more cost overruns than 5 million project. small is beautiful and more efficient than you think. so having the government, centralized one bureaucrat make a mistake, okay, massive consequences. it looks okay until they make a mistake. it's a lot bigger. plus, another thing. there's no skin in the game on a part of bureaucrats. bureaucrat makes a decision. that's the central thing. federalize the system and i was asked how to make the financial industry better. force people to have skin in the game. nrds, have people harmed by the mistakes. >> sure. >> you are not harmed as a bureaucrat, not harmed by the bureaucrat. a mayor, you're shamed. that's maybe enough, jus
shifting the debt burden from the federal government and states and federal government is a better position to carry debt. states have these constitutional balance budget amendments and bail out the states, isn't it? >> this is exactly the problem we have is that the government finds it easy to borrow and runaway deficit. let me explain the big thing. a project in the uk where we have good data, 100 million pounds, uk project, 30% more cost overruns than 5 million project. small is...
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the government will continue to function for a couple more months. emergency measures will be used to keep the money flowing, so to speak. this is unrelated to the fiscal cliff, so it's an additional problem that everybody has to deal with. of course the worst thing is we know how horrible it was the last time the debt ceiling needed to be raised in the summer of 2011, it went down to the wire and it looked as if there was a chance the united states would not raise the borrowing limit and default. we heard talk about social security payments not going out and that kind of thing. that's all led to the first downgrade in the u.s. credit rating, the stock market tanked. that was a ugly scenario. on top of the fiscal cliff, we may go through this all over again. it's another drag on the markets and on the whole economy at exactly the wrong time. >> when you say drag, though, give us an example of what you mean. we talked about january 2nd, everybody goes back to work and markets open. are we going to see a lot of volatility. all of a sudden it crashes do
the government will continue to function for a couple more months. emergency measures will be used to keep the money flowing, so to speak. this is unrelated to the fiscal cliff, so it's an additional problem that everybody has to deal with. of course the worst thing is we know how horrible it was the last time the debt ceiling needed to be raised in the summer of 2011, it went down to the wire and it looked as if there was a chance the united states would not raise the borrowing limit and...
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they are still retaining the government jobs that they said would step aside. why isn't holder stepping down? >> juan: how is eric holder involved in benghazi? >> kimberly: he is not. >> andrea: they sent in the f.b.i. wink, wink. but holder would get back to us. >> eric: lisa jackson was using a male alias for official business. >> 12,000 e-mails. what are they doing? sending e-mails to each other all over the place. when do they get anything done in washington 12,000 e-mails. i don't think i sent 12,000 e-mails in my life. >> andrea: the biggest failure under her watch was the keystone pipeline. her administration blocked the keystone pipeline. actively her and her boss' orders. she could go. goodbye. >> eric: juan, quickly. she could step aside and not answer. just she should answer. if you're avoiding having your e-mails seen and understood as a public official you are wrong. she has been outstanding public servant. the environmentists are disappointed obama hasn't listened to her more, especially on fracking and pipeline. i know the right thinks he hasn't
they are still retaining the government jobs that they said would step aside. why isn't holder stepping down? >> juan: how is eric holder involved in benghazi? >> kimberly: he is not. >> andrea: they sent in the f.b.i. wink, wink. but holder would get back to us. >> eric: lisa jackson was using a male alias for official business. >> 12,000 e-mails. what are they doing? sending e-mails to each other all over the place. when do they get anything done in washington...
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government is an insurance company with an army. when we talk about the insurance company part, we are talking about medicare and social security, and to some degree medicaid. those are programs that benefit the middle class and the poor, mainly through retirement. the other thing that people talk about, those are very small parts in the federal budget compared to medicare and social security. really, is not a question of needing to cut these programs. it is that they are growing more quickly than the economy, larger than they have been in the past, and what we need to decide as a nation is, are willing to pay substantially higher taxes than we have in the past to pay for these programs? if we want to keep our current tax burdens, we need to figure out how to reduce those programs. medicare -- we are not talking about reducing benefits over the long term. we have a health care system over all that grows more quickly than the economy. economists do not have one reason why that happens. they are looking for all the reasons why that ha
government is an insurance company with an army. when we talk about the insurance company part, we are talking about medicare and social security, and to some degree medicaid. those are programs that benefit the middle class and the poor, mainly through retirement. the other thing that people talk about, those are very small parts in the federal budget compared to medicare and social security. really, is not a question of needing to cut these programs. it is that they are growing more quickly...
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joining me now, president for americans for limited government. so why doesn't the administration want a deal, why do they want to go over the fiscal cliff? can you hear us? okay, we're going to have to fix bills hearing problems. he will take a quick break and come back with bill wilson right after this. stay tuned. you see your big picture. with the fidelity guided portfolio summary, you choose which accounts to track and use fidelity's analytics to spot trends, gain insights, and figure out what you want to do next. all in one place. i'm meredith stoddard and i helped create the fidelity guided portfolio suary. it's one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. >> phil wilson can't hear us now. sorry about the difficulty with your hearing device. let's talk about the president going off the fiscal cliff or not. >> i think it is crystal clear that that is the case. his response was to offer, what he called, a small proposal. extend another $30 billion, no spending cuts and l
joining me now, president for americans for limited government. so why doesn't the administration want a deal, why do they want to go over the fiscal cliff? can you hear us? okay, we're going to have to fix bills hearing problems. he will take a quick break and come back with bill wilson right after this. stay tuned. you see your big picture. with the fidelity guided portfolio summary, you choose which accounts to track and use fidelity's analytics to spot trends, gain insights, and figure out...
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a lot of the money that the low-end consumer has, they won't have anymore, and they won't have the government assistance programs to rely on. may not have the same effect we saw in the last recession. >> the ultimate consumer discretionary stocks, it occurs to me, dana, would be the luxury retailers like a tiffany which have suffered here recently. they in the past have been immune to a lot of vagaries of the consumer and the economy, but that hasn't been the case this time around. what happened? >> i think tiffany's a little bit different than some of the other luxury goods company. tiffany overall is working on its product, silver business which is a high margin category. didn't have enough novelty and newness in it and hopefully that's something they can fix for next year. >> wasn't just me then? >> not just you. >> exactly. >> i noticed that, yeah. >> dana on that point, the companies for stocks like tiffany's, what about aptitude in places like china in. >> overall when we see what's happening in china, so many new brands emerged in china, new companies on the luxury good fronts, and you
a lot of the money that the low-end consumer has, they won't have anymore, and they won't have the government assistance programs to rely on. may not have the same effect we saw in the last recession. >> the ultimate consumer discretionary stocks, it occurs to me, dana, would be the luxury retailers like a tiffany which have suffered here recently. they in the past have been immune to a lot of vagaries of the consumer and the economy, but that hasn't been the case this time around. what...
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the government bought them back. after a certain date if they were in your home, you were arrested. they have had a decrease in crime and suicide, which is an interesting development. it seems to me, you either have to go that route, which you cannot in the u.s. -- gun ownership in australia was 5% of households. gallup has shown is 47% here. we have the second amendment and the hisry back to washington. given that we are a different culture, the kinds of laws that we pass are almost always an effective as a result, because there are00 million weapons out there today. unless you recall them the way that australia did, and we cannot do that -- you would have a reservoir that would last 100 years. >> you can imagine what would happen. there would be an insurrection. >> you do not have to permit guns -- and i understand they are already there -- but you do not simply not do something because it is already a problem. right now>> you can imagine whad happen. there would be an insurrection. , we allowed guns that are made specifically to injured in the most grievous way and the fastest wa
the government bought them back. after a certain date if they were in your home, you were arrested. they have had a decrease in crime and suicide, which is an interesting development. it seems to me, you either have to go that route, which you cannot in the u.s. -- gun ownership in australia was 5% of households. gallup has shown is 47% here. we have the second amendment and the hisry back to washington. given that we are a different culture, the kinds of laws that we pass are almost always an...
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we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this fight for a long time and you've been devoted to the whole idea of not seeing taxes increase anywhere. but what we're down to right now is largely a political battle over the increase in marginal tax rates based on what you earn. i understand there's a lot more to this puzzle, but on that front, because that's the one that gets most of the ink around here, whether people who earn more than $250,000 or $400,000 or $1 million should may-pay more tax. the point is that's not going to hurt the economy. that's all we're talking about. paying 4.6%, 8 points higher on your income over $250,000, empirically the evidence isn't there that that's going to hurt the any economy. >> well, it's going to take taxes from 35% up to 43.6%
we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this fight for a long time and you've been devoted to the whole idea of not seeing taxes increase anywhere. but what we're down to...
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pile on top of that government benefits. i'm talking about social security checks and military payments. who could forget what happens when lawmakers raised the debt ceiling last summer but not until the last minute. that caused a credit downgrade for the u.s. and a huge selloff for the market. the thing is, suzanne, it could come down to the wire once again, yet another nail-biter. suzanne? >> a >>al >> alison, it could cause a ripple effect. >> yeah, but the markets won't take that well. it's more of the saving kick the can down the road. if there's band-aid measure that goes in, that's not what the market is going to necessarily see. they want to see something stronger with the if is cal cliff and the debt ceiling as well and it seems that everything is sort of being held hostage in the whole fiscal cliff discussions and the debt ceiling has become part of that as well. suzanne. >> the president is saying he's not going to allow that to happen. there are other headlines we're keeping our eye on for this thursday. others f
pile on top of that government benefits. i'm talking about social security checks and military payments. who could forget what happens when lawmakers raised the debt ceiling last summer but not until the last minute. that caused a credit downgrade for the u.s. and a huge selloff for the market. the thing is, suzanne, it could come down to the wire once again, yet another nail-biter. suzanne? >> a >>al >> alison, it could cause a ripple effect. >> yeah, but the markets...
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that's why we have government. fix it. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> we call him dr. j. he's got a name. he made waves on the fast time money report because he's become an investor in nothing. >> for the first time in 31 years in the market i am completely out of everything. i see no reason to stick with this thing. no reason to get short either, but i think we've assured our self, judge, that we're going to get very small deals done and we virtually assured ourselves of getting our dent downgraded. >> matt is with virtual financial. anthony is with grg. do you agree with dr. j.? >> i would agree. we're starting to get sick and tired of what's going on down in washington. we're getting complacent about the fiscal cliff. people are for getting about just about everythi
that's why we have government. fix it. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> we call him dr. j. he's got a name. he made waves on the fast time money report because he's become an investor in nothing. >> for the...
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keeping tabs on peaceful americans who are trying to loosen wall street's death grip on our economy and government in just a moment what do new f.b.i. documents reveal about the agency's surveillance on the occupy wall street movement also president obama cut short his hawaiian vacation to get back to fiscal cliff negotiations but given that he and democrats have put everything they can on the table and republicans still won't compromise what hope is there in striking a deal that doesn't leave the middle class high and dry and later the funerals for newtown connecticut victims may have finally ended but unfortunately funerals for gun victims in america never truly stop another story of a mass shooting and how the n.r.a. is more interested in saving profits than saving lives. and we did tonight with occupy wall street during the heyday of the occupy movement last year if you were lucky enough to walk through one of the encampments says i was frequently here at occupy d.c. good to see a community built as an example of what our nation should be striving for you would've seen hell. care provided for
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they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts that president obama carried in 2012. given that, and we were talking with kelly about the fact that this has to come through the house at some point, that republicans still control. is there any reason for, politically speaking -- >> absolutely, right. >> -- not good of the country speaking, but politically speaking, is there any reason for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very
they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts...
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but is there a limit to what the government can do? would you say that cars being made safely, and they say, you know, government can' make an economy as a whole. >> they don't have much power. we have to demand more from big business. neil: wil the govenment demand that? >> business can hardly keep up with the corporate climb. barclays, jpmorgan chase, now, wasko, 3 billion-dollar fine. we have to save these corporations. they were built on the backs of american workers. build buildout by american taxpayers. recording record profits. sitting on trillions of dollars, keeping them away from their owners and the investors a the workers. neil: are you saying that there was crime involved? there was no crime involved. are you saying that all of these guys are typical? in other words with that there are more bad guys and good guys? >> the big guys have too much power and are too big to fail and all that. >> leches take the fortune 500. would you say, you mentioned three prominent companies. would you say that is 3%? 5%? 50%? i just disagree
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why does this to say he's working for the government? eric: we just got some breaking news from toyota motors, according to our friends at the "wall street journal" settled a class-action lawsuit about acceleration $1.1 billion, we will keep our eye on that stock. wthe figures outraged initially the report a spontaneous protest over at that video? wait until the critics hearsecr this. resigning his post on the attack is reportedly still working for the government and the other through officials suspended are slated to return to their jobs.r they're still working for the government. b >> they said heads are to roll. things are really going to happen. here's not a shock. no accountability, lack of consequences, doesn'tce happen. eric: apparently the assistant secretary of state changed jobs, went across the office and to another desk. >> exactly. also kind of parse the words.o a very difficult to get fired from the federal government. it is a very secure long-term position. no matter how egregious the problems are, and that's report pointe
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you say i've been elected, but let's govern. >> but is obama willing to negotiate? >> is the senate willing to negotiate? >> no matter what you put up there, if it doesn't start with $250,000, it's not going to pass. >> wait a second, obama went up to $400,000. >> what's he done on entitlements? >> he did the change cpi that would bring it down. >> that's not true. >> no. listen, he did nothing. john boehner has conceded some things. the last move, not a smart one. >> can we talk more about vampires? >> we can. only during the commercial break. >> oh, okay. >> and now a word from our sponsor. is it okay to fire an employee for being simply irresistible? greg has had this problem over and over but he is still here. we will tell but it next. >> after working so many years side by side, i didn't have any idea that that would have crossed his mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage
you say i've been elected, but let's govern. >> but is obama willing to negotiate? >> is the senate willing to negotiate? >> no matter what you put up there, if it doesn't start with $250,000, it's not going to pass. >> wait a second, obama went up to $400,000. >> what's he done on entitlements? >> he did the change cpi that would bring it down. >> that's not true. >> no. listen, he did nothing. john boehner has conceded some things. the last...
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important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you. john boehner as we heard from kelly o'donnell is going to have to face meeting democrats if we have a deal. then he's going to have to go back to his caucus and say re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> i think it's two separate questions, richard. on the first point he's going to have a difficult time to corral votes. if the president bring his 250 plan to the house floor, you're not going to see many republicans go after it. but at the same time i think boehner is pretty safe when it comes to his speakership. if gentlemen were making noise against the speaker, there would be huge trouble. i think boehner'
important because if the taxes are raised, the republicans want to be able to argue they were able to cut government spending. while this isn't the most important parnt. there's much more to look at, the goal being sunday. >> thanks, kelly. my eyes didn't glaze over. it's hard not to conclude he's the first casualty of war. boehner put it forward. since then he's been more of an observer than a player in this crisis. joining me now to talk about boehner's fate. i want to start with you....
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now you are expanding the risk of the government's books. new loans held by private investors. gerri: i want to talk about another issue with you that is a fiscal cliff going over the fiscal cliff, what will that do to housing? >> the worst case scenario in the fiscal cliff if the tax increases and spending cuts come into effect would be bad for the economy and would really hurt housing demand. even if the fiscal cliff is solved, less damaging ways to resolve the fiscal cliff, the housing market still might be affected if the mortgage interest deduction is cut back severely. right now the mortgage interest deduction cost the government roughly $100 billion per year in revenue and getting rid of that would likely increase home values particularly in more expensive areas. gerri: rehear it would put the brakes on selling and home buying in those areas. what are the issues for you? you know all the issues and housing, what are you looking for next year? >> three things have been really important, the first is the inventories of homes for sale are down sharply. that is great news fo
now you are expanding the risk of the government's books. new loans held by private investors. gerri: i want to talk about another issue with you that is a fiscal cliff going over the fiscal cliff, what will that do to housing? >> the worst case scenario in the fiscal cliff if the tax increases and spending cuts come into effect would be bad for the economy and would really hurt housing demand. even if the fiscal cliff is solved, less damaging ways to resolve the fiscal cliff, the housing...
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it's equal branchings of government. they control two-thirds and it takes three to tango, the senate, white hussein. >> eric: terrific debate. >> heather: who is leading in the tango, that's what we don't know. congressional leaders are trying to come up with that deal, with less than two days before massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in and small businesses are already being affected. companies have no idea how much more they are going to owe uncle sam next year. that is affecting how they are doing business right now. we have those details from the new york city newsroom. >> reporter: many small, owners are hesitating to expand, for fear their bottom line will suffer as the fiscal cliff looms and congress can't seem to compromise. the owner of an internet marketing company is concerned that the change in tax rates will hurt his ability to hire. he says the uncertainty is making him run his business defensively, making decisions based on business already coming in because he can't risk losing it all. >> knowing th
it's equal branchings of government. they control two-thirds and it takes three to tango, the senate, white hussein. >> eric: terrific debate. >> heather: who is leading in the tango, that's what we don't know. congressional leaders are trying to come up with that deal, with less than two days before massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in and small businesses are already being affected. companies have no idea how much more they are going to owe uncle sam next year. that is...
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government, for states, cities. you name it. a lot of unanswered questions here right now. >> bret: cheryl casone in new york. cheryl, thank you. we will be watching the markets, especially the asian markets when they open in just 30 minutes. thank you. the question is now what happens with the u.s. house of representatives? how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we have a live interview with the vice chairman of the budget committee. he will join us on the other side of this break. [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. looking live at the house floor gaveled back in session. take vote that don't deal with the fiscal cliff legislation and counting heads semil
government, for states, cities. you name it. a lot of unanswered questions here right now. >> bret: cheryl casone in new york. cheryl, thank you. we will be watching the markets, especially the asian markets when they open in just 30 minutes. thank you. the question is now what happens with the u.s. house of representatives? how does speaker boehner move forward as the meeting is breaking up? we have inside scoop from behind those closed doors. and perhaps a strategy, path way forward. we...
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bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may be the silver lining, writing, quote -- now at least we know something important. the current rep majority cannot govern, only a coalition across party lines can get the public's business done. e.j. joins us now, a senior fellow with the brookings institution and an msnbc contributor. e.j., great to see you, as always. john boehner sits to the left of center of his caucus. can he work out a deal without inciting a full-scale revolt? >> well, we don't know that, but i think he'll have to test it. that really tells you something about how conservative the republican caucus has done. john boehner is a good conservative. what w
bring all 3 million of that one weapon back in, let the government, county, state and federal, pay you to take them back. you do don't need them. >>> we have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >>> speaker boehner has said it's up to the senate and the president to come up with a fiscal deal, but as some point out, he'll have to push a bill through the house. given last week's events it won't be easy. "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne says that may...
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the demonization of people who believe in limited government and a government that represents we, the people, and not we, the elites. and i really think that it's archaic and dinosaur-like of folks like sam donaldson who have long been out of power. i mean we broke the liberal media monopoly years ago, and this is really their death row call, not ours. thanks, sam. >> good to see you. thank you for being with us. happy new year. >> you bet. >> that's all the time we have left for the special fiscal cliff edition of hannity. thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled because the news continues and greta is standing by to go live on the record. greta, take it away.illy. the factor. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. call me a hopeless optimist but i still think we can get it done. >> as the nation comes closer to the edge the chances of a fiscal cliff deal begin to doom. what will it mean for you? >> the administration essentially enacting legislation on its own through you
the demonization of people who believe in limited government and a government that represents we, the people, and not we, the elites. and i really think that it's archaic and dinosaur-like of folks like sam donaldson who have long been out of power. i mean we broke the liberal media monopoly years ago, and this is really their death row call, not ours. thanks, sam. >> good to see you. thank you for being with us. happy new year. >> you bet. >> that's all the time we have left...
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we actually spend, government spends more per citizen on the average american than the french government does in the average frenchman. lou: i think you're being unfair to americans. we think of quebec, but certainly not all of canada, and more of our refuge. reach extreme. >> they're building a maple curtain. you better get there soon. lo as we ok at what is happening, bill archer is talking about $86 trillion in unfunded liabilities as we cannot manage even e 16 tllion in debt r consecute years of italian dollar efcits, brought to us by george w. bush, and all fairness. >> well, i think the point he is that when people make coarisons, comparisons are relevant because you can run the numbers ansay in tms of gdp -- relation to gdp or never, we are not quite as bad as greece or portugal ornever, but they are just talking about a fe ring keating billions. a trillion word is really unique to the united states. and i think that is what is going to kill us, the absolute numbers. germany can affo to bailout greece. nobodyan afford to bailout the united states, and i would agree actually th bil
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government and economy and they're going to be sitting with their guns ready to fend off any visitors. well, you know, that concerns me a little bit because they're not religious nuts. they are actually rational people with a bad idea. >> michael, that's actually a great point. the difference between the secular and religious doomsday folks. is there anything you could say to the secular types who are sitting with their piles of gold and everything waiting for the country to erode. is there anything logically, rationally to persuade people maybe this isn't the best approach? >> well, i do. these people write me and i write them back. i say look, the country's almost 250 years old. and nothing's happened like that. even remotely like that. that happens in some third world countries where they have revolutions, but we've had all these presidential elections and not once has the incumbent president had to be forced out by gun point. where that does happen in other countries. the chances of that happening here is very low. our economy has gone through major cataclysms and still people don
government and economy and they're going to be sitting with their guns ready to fend off any visitors. well, you know, that concerns me a little bit because they're not religious nuts. they are actually rational people with a bad idea. >> michael, that's actually a great point. the difference between the secular and religious doomsday folks. is there anything you could say to the secular types who are sitting with their piles of gold and everything waiting for the country to erode. is...
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challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it amazes me that i am still here. i did not plan to be here this long. if i did not have the chance to serve in some of those appropriations we would not have stayed this long. there are many ways to impact the process and the future of congress itself. it is my intention to try to do that regardless on what doorway we're walking through in our life. >> you haven't announced what you are doing next have you? >> i have not and i have no idea. >> how does that feel >> it feels great. my bride and i -- we have worked together many years. where i have had success, any you can says i've had it is work that we've done together and we're proud that we're going to take these next steps that will allow to make a
challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it amazes me that i am still here. i did not plan to be here this long. if i did not have the chance to serve in some of those appropriations we would...
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. >> and this endless deadlock, this complete failure to compromise on seemingly anything and to govern -- >> the american people have spoken, and they've basically voted for the status quo. the president got re-elect, the senate is still in democratic hands and the house is still in republican hands. the american people have spoken. >> if there is no deal income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are scheduled to expire at the end of the year. 2 million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. the president and congress impressional leaders from both parties are scheduled to meat at the white house at 3:00 tomorrow to try to find some way out of this mess. they have met at the white house before to try to find some way out of this mess, and every single time they did that, they did not find a way out of this mess. if past is prologue, derek, get out your wallet. >> well, gary, as the mess, as you describe it, looms closer and closer, what do you really want to know about this fiscal cliff? join us tomorrow for 9news at 5:00. we'll have an expert here to begin to answer your quest
. >> and this endless deadlock, this complete failure to compromise on seemingly anything and to govern -- >> the american people have spoken, and they've basically voted for the status quo. the president got re-elect, the senate is still in democratic hands and the house is still in republican hands. the american people have spoken. >> if there is no deal income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are scheduled to expire at the end of the year. 2 million jobless americans lose...
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, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under medicare by making sure that 30% cut to the providers don't go through. th
, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to...
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and now indian officials have closed off access to the country's main government building in kron-4's jeff bush was at a vigil held today at the >> reporter: about three dozen protestors gathered at the consolate on arguello street just before sundown. many of them are indian expatriates and say something needs to be done to address women's rights in >> (protest organizer) preeti shekar: this incident is one of many that have been going on and we are here to say that violence against women is not ok and we need to do something >> manoj hergarwl, protestor: i'm a citizen of india and i thought i should be herejust, as a guy, i feel so sad and it is shameful what has happened people without ties to india>> marcia poole, protestor: india has tolorated the rape of women for so long now that the police actually, >> reporter: the group presented a petition to the consulate saying more needs to be done to stop violence against a representative accepted the petition and gave a the incident. he said a established to investigate >> n.p. singhand: we are confident that the incident will prove to
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that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know what the outcome is going to be, the question is how much punishment do they want to take? it is possible that they would wait after january 1. they could say we're going to cut taxes now instead of vote to allow them to go up. gwen: let's move on. because there's one more thing we want to go to. from iran to syria to libya to egypt to israeli, palestinian standoff over gaza, the obama administration's wishes have seldom been.raedpt >> we and the world haveed join in condemning the brutality of the assad regime. >> no one wants to determine what happened that night in benghazi more than the president and i
that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the fight of taxes because tax rates are going to go up for every -- the only question is how many people they go up for. so if you already know...
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that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate impact on people with unemployment insurance and other things? i mean, what happens if we go over this cliff? >> well, you really have to distinguish between going over the cliff and quickly reversing the damage, meaning in a matter of weeks, which is still
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and yemeni governments are taking them seriously. militants offered $23,000 for the killing of an american soldier in yemen. analysts say militants may be affiliated with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, the powerful bran inch yemen. >> they've been looking for a way to hit the u.s., whether the u.s. ambassador in yemen which they attacked in september of 2008 or carrying out more attacks here in the united states. >> reporter: this is the same group that came close to detonating a bomb in the underwear of a militant in the 2009 christmas day plot to the bomb an airliner bound for detroit. it attempted to send printer bombs to the u.s. the following year. and tried again this year to bomb a plane bound for the u.s. it's also not the first time al qaeda or an affiliate has offered gold for the killing of a prominent american. >> the example, paul brem, the most important american military official in iraq during the bush administration and bin laden himself offered substantial goal reward for basically for his death. >> reporter: no
and yemeni governments are taking them seriously. militants offered $23,000 for the killing of an american soldier in yemen. analysts say militants may be affiliated with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, the powerful bran inch yemen. >> they've been looking for a way to hit the u.s., whether the u.s. ambassador in yemen which they attacked in september of 2008 or carrying out more attacks here in the united states. >> reporter: this is the same group that came close to detonating...
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it is cutting government, that is the key thing. dennis: i could not believe the democratic proposal called for even more. thank you for being with us. happy holidays. >> you to. dagen: "countdown to the closing bell" is next. dennis: mr. ashley webster will join you with that. merry christmas, everybody. ♪
it is cutting government, that is the key thing. dennis: i could not believe the democratic proposal called for even more. thank you for being with us. happy holidays. >> you to. dagen: "countdown to the closing bell" is next. dennis: mr. ashley webster will join you with that. merry christmas, everybody. ♪
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it's about the role of government in americans' lives. lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic negotiation over this ideological divided america, randi. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist ross douthat the and cornell. the president said he wanted to see a straight up-or-down vote. as we mentioned that, will happen on monday in the senate. he
it's about the role of government in americans' lives. lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic negotiation over this ideological divided america, randi. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal...
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look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going to spend for every 65 we receive in social security in medicare. this is absolutely -- we need to stop. this is not fair to young people. it's not fair for future generations they have to inherit this debt. something needs to be done. >> i agree. what do we do when we have personal debt? we raise our income, we want to raise our revenue and cut spending. >> we're not going to take -- >> we put it forward and we've cut spending cut $.5 trillion last year. >> where? >> i want to take money from the private sector and give it to a bunch of bureau kratz. let the money stay in the private sector. don't raise taxes when we have a slow economy. >> why are you telling me that? tell john boehner not to raise taxes. he'll raise them on all of us. the congress is on taxes. everything -- we shouldn't be debating this. congress should because tax bills, as you know, have
look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going to spend for every 65 we receive in social security in medicare. this is absolutely -- we need to stop. this is not fair to young people. it's not fair for future generations they have to inherit this debt. something needs to be done. >> i agree. what do we do when we...
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because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of the war. as kelly just said, boehner put forward the plan b only to withdraw it when he could not rustle up enough republican votes, and since then he is more of an observer than a player in the crisis. joining me is rob acosta, and "republic's" john stein. as we just heard from kelly o'donnell, they will be faced with needing democrats to get this deal through if we do indeed have a deal, and then he has to go back to the caucus and say, re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> well, these are two separate questions, richard. on the first point, boehner has a tough time corralling some of the republic
because if the taxes are raised the republicans want to be able to argue that they were able to cut government spending. so while this is an important part, there are many chapters that are going to be happening over the next 24 hours, and we will see if they can get it done. the goal to have something ready to look at by sunday. >> thank you, kelly. my eyes did not glaze over, honestly. this has been a rough couple of weeks for john boehner and hard to believe he is the first casualty of...
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we put the government on hiatus in terms of spending money but we've always gotten through it. to me that is not the seminole issue. if that is i'm happy to be on the other side of the trade. >> i wasn't saying it is an actual issue. i said it was surprised at the degree to which corporate leaders are saying that that is a big deal. in other words to me to -- >> that pales in every interview i've heard, on cnbc, that paels in comparison. it is an after thought relative to getting the budget situation and tax situation set. that has only come on as an issue recently. you talk about pent up demand for the market over the last month. pent up demand has been in corporations spending their 2 trillion in cash over the last year in advance of settling this situation not the debt ceiling. >> let me also say mike before we let you go just to revisit the to revisit the trade you brought last week which was a winner tan that was long tlt, going long treasuries, that still work for you? >> well it still works i think as long as the process gets dragged out. what the bond market is not goin
we put the government on hiatus in terms of spending money but we've always gotten through it. to me that is not the seminole issue. if that is i'm happy to be on the other side of the trade. >> i wasn't saying it is an actual issue. i said it was surprised at the degree to which corporate leaders are saying that that is a big deal. in other words to me to -- >> that pales in every interview i've heard, on cnbc, that paels in comparison. it is an after thought relative to getting...
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. >> i would say that sometimes he governs like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful
. >> i would say that sometimes he governs like a visitor from a morally superior civilization. he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the...
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the government was not going to fall over this. obama care doesn't fall oh he vert h healthcare mandate but would have protected while the case is fully litigated the religious freedom rights of the owners of hobby lobby to protect their religious conscience. unfortunately, the justice today, her deneyial in four pages basically said sorry i don't see it and therefore you will pay the penalty or provide the insurance whether you you like it or not and i think she missed an opportunity to put it on hold pending a pull disposition of the case and frankly i don't see where there would have been any harm in that whatsoever. obama care would have not fallen over it. >> laura: wouldn't that have been the least destructive way of going about this for the justice and doesn't this signal real trouble for those business owners in the united states who they are are not churches mind you but they have real beliefs and they do not allow them to participate in providing the coverage for the abort a patient drugs. why is their religious liberty a
the government was not going to fall over this. obama care doesn't fall oh he vert h healthcare mandate but would have protected while the case is fully litigated the religious freedom rights of the owners of hobby lobby to protect their religious conscience. unfortunately, the justice today, her deneyial in four pages basically said sorry i don't see it and therefore you will pay the penalty or provide the insurance whether you you like it or not and i think she missed an opportunity to put it...
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government. david: we already have. are you kidding, larry? we already have. >> i doubt it because, really, if the credit were destroyed, the cost of finance at the margin would be going up, and the cost of finance at the margin for the federal government is going down. >> larry, consumers are pulling back, a consumer that's pulling back, not spending as much, that is not going out and driving and consuming oil, the confidence seems eroded before a decision is made in dc. we don't even need a decision. david: larry, i know what you say about interest rates, overriding factor thinking about investment and how much cash, but, again, right for now, our credit rating is the best in the worlding but it's a lousy world of credit. that's the problem is that with all this money printing going on around the world, i'm wondering when that comes back to bite us. >> well, that's why you don't want to be in bonds and be in stocks because stocks -- david: good point. >> when stocks accelerate, good hedge against inflation. the consumer in the cave, i don't
government. david: we already have. are you kidding, larry? we already have. >> i doubt it because, really, if the credit were destroyed, the cost of finance at the margin would be going up, and the cost of finance at the margin for the federal government is going down. >> larry, consumers are pulling back, a consumer that's pulling back, not spending as much, that is not going out and driving and consuming oil, the confidence seems eroded before a decision is made in dc. we don't...
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a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other side to not make a deal saying a bad deal is worse than no deal, go over the cliff. these voices have real influence right now and you they are causing economic calamity to our country. they are making us look foolish. they are making us look unable to self-govern in a constructive way, let alone serve -- solve long-term problems, which is what we elect them for. people should be furious that we are here 36 hours with no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i have no doubt they are. john avlon, thanks very much, as always, for the insight. thank you. >>> a fiscal fight. it is happening right now
a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other...